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I was a teenager in the 70s and lived and breathed this style of music. But the term 'progressive rock' was not one that I ever heard until decades later. The term 'progressive pop' is one I that I first heard in 2023. At the time, this style of music was pretty much universally referred to as 'progressive music'. It was never thought of as a sub-genre of rock and did not exclude music that clearly was not rock. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.254.242.128 (talk) 11:58, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As a fan of progressive rock in general and of Rush in particular, the person who wrote that Rush had top ten albums in the 70's is incorrect. They did not, in fact, reach the Billboard top ten until 1980, when "Permanent Waves" hit the number four spot. Rockislandrocker (talk) 15:27, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Concerning edits of long-standing content by @FMSky.
My perspective on the page’s previous listing of “the United Kingdom and United States” is that the United States should stay, as this reflects the information presented as to the origins of related genres like Experimental rock, Psychedelic rock, and Proto-prog. Both sources (the one FMSky provided and the one I did) emphasize how many of the definitive bands in the Progressive rock genre came from the UK, while also noting American influences. I also now think Germany should get a mention, as Allmusic references Krautrock, a basically identical genre that’s mostly just distinguished by the scene’s German roots. Numerous American groups are named across the Allmusic and Rock & Roll Hall of Fame sources, from The Beach Boys, Jefferson Airplane, The Mothers of Invention, and The Byrds, to Styx, Journey, and Kansas. That’s to say nothing of notable US groups not referenced that were important to the genre, like Frank Zappa, Utopia, Captain Beefheart, and Glass Harp. Threefrgy (talk) 12:07, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's pretty clear from the cited sources that the cultural origins included US artists:
Early Prog Rock was inspired by the long jams, improvisations, and sonic journeys of bands like the Jefferson Airplane, the Grateful Dead, the Byrds, and the Zombies, but the two albums that most directly influenced the birth of the genre were Pet Sounds (1966) by the Beach Boys, and Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967) by the Beatles.
That said, it was mostly a UK phenomenon until US artists like Kansas and Styx started copying bands like ELP, Yes, and King Crimson. Which is fleshed out in the article text. So, an argument can be made to only include the UK as the cultural origins, but seems to me that including the US has the better side of the argument. Mr. Swordfish (talk) 21:22, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I would agree. Can you give me your thoughts on the inclusion of Germany at the end? I think Progressive rock is a potentially expansive label that relates to, and could encompass, virtually identical genres like Electronic rock, Jazz fusion, Experimental rock, and Krautrock (which is mentioned in the Allmusic summary). I think the UK, US, and Germany should all three be listed as originating locations. Threefrgy (talk) 22:25, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My sense is that krautrock developed independently in Germany but simultaneously with developments in the UK and US. Whether that merits inclusion in the lede and the info box is debatable and I don't have strong opinions either way. Mr. Swordfish (talk) 00:10, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have been trying to improve and expand upon these weak sections but keep getting constant reverts. User:FMSky and User:Binksternet, please explain what you are looking for with the sources. I have tried to summarize events and notable releases of the decades and the bands I mention are included in each source I've referenced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kernelpanic85 (talk • contribs) 14:31, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I responded to this pair of edits by you. You cited rateyourmusic.com which is not a reliable source, disallowed at WP:ALBUMAVOID, in violation of WP:USERG. Same with albumoftheyear.com which you cited. Finally, you added a bit about Rush, supported only by stuff found at rush.com. If you want to make a new paragraph, it should have a foundation in WP:SECONDARY sourcing. Binksternet (talk) 22:25, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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